dickerson fly rod tapers

the stated ferrule dimensions always follow from the TIP dimensions, not the butt dimensions. 25 .232 .115 I like to look at the taper itself and how it compares to a straight line taper, the stress curve, the tip deflection under loading, the shape the rod assumes under maximum loading, the rod weight and the center of gravity. Forgot to mention before, Rich Jezioro is taking a set of 11-12/64 ferrules to Grayling for the silent auction for me, so if anybody's interested you can see them there if you're attending. I haven't tried a WF6 but suspect it'd be about perfect. Pickard makes nice rods for sure. As a rule I only make #5 rods (like Marinaro) and the bulk of these are less than 7'6". Manchester, VT 05254 One of these days I am going to get myself a DICKERSON! Over the last few days there has been a long thread about rods breaking at the female ferrule. Again, there is slight flattening around the ferrule, and I suspect the measurement at 35" is due to machine operator error/technique rather than designed in. As you know line weight do vary so maybe your 8 wt is my 7 wt, or something like that? As long as a maker includes the correct ferrule drop, Dickerson tapers are no more difficult to make than most others. All of the tapers that I am finding appear to be using a Super Z. I am not wanting to start the Super Z vs. Garrison's are straight except for the last 15 inches which he "fudged" to accommodate one of the standard tip top sizes. Or, if these are not good tapers for this, any suggestions as to which tapers would be? There are two Perfectionists on Hexrod. (Greg Reeves). This first set was posted on The Classic Fly Rod Forum by Jeff Fultz. Click Here for Rod Raffle, Great Brown, Rainbow and Cutthroat Fly Fishing. 60 0.242 Don't you find short rods a problem on those splendid Yorkshire chalk streams? (Lew) Parks. (Timothy Troester). Its a very useful exercise. I'm satisfied with my bamboo fly rod, even though the female metal Ferrule opening was a little big and the male ferrule on the second section would slip out after a few cast. Experience the difference of a Mystic Fly Rod on your next expedition. Looking at the 5" dimensions for the Dickerson 7613 (1970 taper), there is a big swell under the grip. It made a fine rod, but you have to smooth out the taper leading into and out of the 45 and 50" stations as the rod was designed for a step down ferrule. The varnish is in good condition. (Frank Stetzer, Hexrod, Taper Archive, Rodmakers Archive). Regarding the similarities and differences between the 7'6" and 8' Dickerson's. Jim Payne. How would you characterize their casting characteristics? If you know something different about Dickerson's typical varnsh coat, make the appropriate adjustment. Except that they are US rated and thus #5's! So this spring I made the Dickerson 8014 Guide taper and prefer it for Lake Bass and larger bluegill. Information About Makers and Manufacturers, Appraisals & Identification of Bamboo Fly Rods. If you want to make one as a sort of standard then try a rate of taper of 13.5 thousandths per station, it gives a Gould rating of 270 which is a useful point about which to have a conversation with yourself about what you think is medium fast and what you think is fast. I add a few thousandths to the last 3 inches to get a better fit. (Chris Obuchowski). (Will McMurrey), A picture says a thousand words. I'm just curious if you have a procedure to do this compensation on the taper itself or if you do this by stress calculation methods? (Robin Haywood). by canerodscom 05/09/09 02:32, Post (Will Price), I have noticed several folks mention the Dickerson 8014. All of the Dickerson tapers I have made using Super Zs have been great. Jim P. you have some great choices there. I really must stir myself to come and fish them, it's time that's the enemy. The 8014 taper was devised later in Lyle's life and reflects both this ma Pickard is the Dickerson rod maker these days. (John Channer), Well, the #13 Payne ferrules that I've mic'd had a female ferrule internal diameter of .203" and the step-down internal diameter of .1875". I use it as my Hex rod & for throwing big streamers. It was considerably more effortless to use than my colleagues 8'6'' to 9' supposedly #4 carbons. (Gary Nicholson), I think most rodmakers wouldn't build a rod to sell that they didn't like, but would make one for a customer that they wouldn't use themselves, I know I have. "God made dogs to steal our hearts and they do.". I have also noticed the mention of a Dickerson 8014GS. 0.278 (Tom Peters), 0.066 Bill said that the book he has written on the subject is going to the printers and should be out soon.. (No financial interest.) Common sense tells me to leave the middle of the taper . .266@20 My original Dickerson is an 861711D dated 1936. Powered by Shopify. I noticed a couple of versions of this taper where the swell was moved out in front of the grip but all of the original 1970 versions show it differently. The file will convert hex tapers to Quad, Penta, Hex, Hepta and Oct tapers. Lyle Dickerson's famed taper. Can someone email me the taper or point me in the right direction? (Robin Haywood). by alpom 05/08/09 03:35, Post Bob through extensive research determined the tip dimensions for specific line weights and then calculated SLT for each. CSE makes and sells this kind of "step-down" ferrule, from tubing, as Dickerson did. I do find that I am using much shorter rods than I did, I think its the American influence of this Listserv! (Mark Wendt), I am wanting to build a Dickerson 7012 but cant find a taper that accounts for the step downs. Just basic principles that have been around for years. (Robin Haywood). Over the time I have made rods. (Steve Weiss), That opens up another question. 35 .207 .086 The taper on David Ray's site is an 861711D. I will be bringing it to Korea next trip to go for trout here in the eastern mountains. 1951Accession No.1987.010.024Made byNARMCO, The American Museum Of Fly Fishing Consider this, the aspect of looking at tapers as deviations from straight lines is most valid when you are designing from numbers and not from stress or deflection. The American Museum of Fly Fishing is the steward of the history, traditions, and practices of the sport of fly fishing and promotes the conservation of its waters. Lyle Dickerson tapered copies Lyle Dickerson (1892-1981) has long been known as a pioneer in rodbuilding, due partly to his use of machinery in production but primarily appreciated by fishermen for many of his fast and accurate taper designs. The Dickerson 7612 taper a smooth medium action 4 wt that is 7 1/2 long in a 2pc. Some people call them "step-down" but it is worth noting that the top and the bottom openings of his ferrules are usually the same diameter; the "step" across the ferrule occurred in the bamboo, not the metal. by jim royston 05/26/17 08:58, Return to Rod making, restoration, repairs and discussion on those related topics concerning bamboo rods., Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. ever wonder why all those 10 1/2/64 Heddons broke at the female ferrule? (Matthew French), Different rods, the 8014 is a true 6wt, the 8014G (G stands for guide) is a heavier rod, a point and shoot, no false cast, lay out a ton of line type rod. This is because the laws of physics don't tend to change much. Tel: 802-362-3300, Summer All through this process you must be aware of the stress curves as well, you don't want to make changes that will cause a rod to fail. (Greg Reeves), This version appears to me to take a step into account. Sold Out $4,050.00 Description Particulars For your consideration is a Lyle Dickerson model 8013 bamboo fly rod made in 1948. First found in the United States in 2014 in southeastern Pennsylvania, spotted lanternfly has spread rapidly through the eastern states. by trouttrapper 06/12/16 09:32, Post The ordeal with the broken rod changed my whole way of looking at ferrule sizes. 0.241 Ten measurements on the butt and ten stations on the tip. It's the important half, too, the other one is less important than line weight, I refer you to the basic laws of aerodynamics, this post is already too long! More info. (Will Price). The best reason that I can give you as to why Dickersons are popular tapers (Along with another Michigan maker Paul Young) is that they are nice casting rods and fit our fishing very well. Pezon/Michel. .but like most opinions you will find that many on this list (and in the world at large) are not going to agree with you. 85 0.296 138357 Different tools for doing different things. If you are designing a rod based on a linear taper and you want to make it a 3 or 4 piece instead of a 2, how would this be taken into account? 40 .202 .375 0.168 When things are stated incorrectly, many of the newer makers on the list can get very confused. I always encourage customers to try before they buy. 0.128 Whether Dickerson tweaked them to suit individuals or not I can't say. DICKERSON 8013 RBS Special - 8' 2/2 - 5wt- honey colored - the legendary 8013 Special is an impressive and powerful med/fast action all-round trout -- taper miked from a Ray Bergman original shop rod. Unless that is what you are trying to achieve. In the end I don't want to necessarily build a Dickerson 7613. Harry Boyd ----------- Harry Boyd http://www.canerods.com maker@canerods.com Aransas.clarks Guide Posts: 301 30 0.151 166917 90 0.296 157251. He has two Dickerson 7613 tapers, from 1952 and 1970, that show dimensions for a butt ferrule that would be 14/64 and a tip ferrule of 13/64. Here's a classic Winston from the Hexrod taper archive. (Jerry Foster), I agree. Welcome to the Taper Archives; The data on this page reflects the work of generations of dedicated rodmakers. The 1st station on the butt section is NOT .214, it should be.208@0, then as follows: .214@5 (Greg Holland), Who knows, he may have just been responding to a client request, presume he had to eat. Regardless of what any book says about what size ferrule belongs on this or that rod, i look at the flat to flat measurements at the ferrule ends and make my own decision about what ferrule to use. His total production was fewer than 1,000 rods. CSE made the ferrule for me. The American Museum of Fly Fishing Collection Gift of . 0.350 To this Robin brings up the complications created by the weight and placement of ferrules etc. There seems to be a misunderstanding about the results this yields. Is there anyone who could help us finding the right data conserning the taper. Sorry! by avyoung 06/12/16 21:25, Post There are many ways to skin this cat. If you are building in the drop at the ferule that Dickerson used, you will usually end up using a size larger ferrule than you'd normally think. (Gordon Koppin), If I might ask: Which Perfectionist taper do you favor? The 7613 is a wonderfully versatile taper, the rod is light in the hand, and is at home casting sizes #6 Muddlers to #16 Dry flies. It is quite different that the Garrison math method. It has a small flex area in the lower tip with a stronger butt sloping up toward the end with a good butt swell; fast rod. If you look at the attached graph you will see that my Compensated Straight Line Taper does indeed have a Straight Horizontal Stress Curve at 20 feet of line outside the tiptop. The stepdown in the male is from a 14/64 ID where the ferrule initially goes over the bamboo and steps down to 12/64 ID for the bamboo inside of the male slide. (Tom Peters), Dickerson used step down ferrules, use a CSE Step down to recreate that Dickerson classic action. Most of the ones I have made and sold are the PHY Perfectionist taper. I am assuming this is an unvarnished rod. I've built this one which was posted to the rodmaker's listserv years ago. 45 0.186 158623 40 0.184 Most of the classic rodmakers continually "fudged" their tapers over the years (sometimes unintentionally due to machine and pattern wear, and sometimes deliberately). Suggest that you subtract .006 for varnish. The conversion file will convert tapers for Solid and Fluted rods for quad, penta, hepta, and oct construction. (Mark Dyba), Okay, to continue the discussion, what are they, and why? Consider one or the other of these two if your rod maker intends to fit the rod with step down ferrules, since there is a .010" step down across the ferrule stations. What does the taper of a rod that roll cast well look like? by mosquito 05/08/09 09:33, Post The taper is designed for trout fishing. 0.350 I have looked on the Rodmakers site under tapers and it is not listed. DICKERSON 801610 - 8' 3/2 - 5wt- honey colored - medium powerful action trout fishing rod this rod is my favorite 8 foot Dickerson - originals are very rare - incredible power in a true 5w$ 2150us (all 3pc 2tip rods)DICKERSON 7613 - 7'6"- one of my all time favorite 5wts, copied in Dickerson's style can be custom made with tips of four different actions below: DICKERSON 7613 LS - the lightest of this series - for closer casting to 40 feetDICKERSON 7613 L - very nice all-round trout taper, full, medium fast actionDICKERSON 7613 M - quick, full dry fly rod - nice to have when the hatch startsDICKERSON 7613 H the 6wt, "big gun" of this series, good for big flies, streamers, $ 1750us w/one tip $ 1950us w/two tips $ 2150us w/three (or all 3pc 2tip rods) $ 2350us w/full set of four tips in all actions. 80 0.296 121171 I was contemplating a rod with a 3.5 ft tip section and interchangeable butt sections of maybe 2, 3 and 4 ft lengths. 6-strip Tonkin bamboo Neither of the Powell's on Hexrod are straight taper, I have no Winston tapers handy. The idea is that the butt must not bend, and when it does its only at the very end, if it bends further down then the height of the line above the ground is dramatically reduced and thus fully one half of the "High speed high line" proposition is not met. Narrow steam but very exposed and windy thus needing a #5 line? I am sure there are situations where a bit more length would be helpful, but who am I to argue with Mr. Dickerson? (Gary Nicholson), So out of great curiosity then - how would you describe to me (someone who doesn't have a clue) how the action would feel or perform with regard to a "Straight Taper Rod" comparatively speaking. As most of you already know Paul Young was notorious for having quite a few different tapers for the same model over the course of his career. Consider this one if your maker plans on using Super Z ferrules. Made by Top Ten Tapers in Twinsburg, Ohio. and .360@45. 2023 American Museum Of Fly Fishing. Fast Dickerson 7613 - 7'6" 2pc As Stephen points out if you can cast the rods then graph them out you really start to understand how it all comes together. 0.174 These were Bailey Woods stepdown ferrules. I can add that there is not one single straight line taper for each line weight. So far everyone that has put the numbers up on Russ Goodings 7613 LT has listed 19 measurements. If you want to adjust for a different varnish assumption, or if you want to interpolate differently, then our actual measurements are there for you (or anyone, of course) to do so. (Harry Boyd). Part of the midwestcadre of noted builders, he built rods from the 1930's onward and was especially known for his fast two-piece rods. On the other hand, Dickerson was designing rods (most likely) for Michigan waters. That is all I did! In practice most people these days do not take well to these technically correct ideas, preferring a slope to the straight line, giving higher strain levels near the tip, i.e. (Reed Guice), Dickerson used the ferrule sizes in the rod to denote both the ferrule and the number of pieces in the rod. Besides that, he's extremely knowledgeable about Dickerson, is the present owner of the Dickerson rod shop, and has an extreme reverence for Lyle's creations and tapers. 45 .216 .375 Are there specific numbers at the ferrule for, say, an 8013 where a 14/64's ferrule is used? (Mark Wendt), Dickerson (like all of us who draw their own tubing) used 1/64 wall tubing to construct his ferrules. Right, I've printed that off and made a brief study. (Chris Obuchowski), Hexrods library seems to suggest otherwise. (David Atchison), Wondered if anyone had the taper for the Dickerson 8012 laying around. 1 wt 0.0540 0.178 To all of them and their contemporaries we are grateful . Powell Rods. .288@30 (Jerry Foster). Adding material to the butt section will stiffen and add power. "And look at the difference in the prices they go for!" 4 wt 0.0680 What you have done is show the slope to the tip to butt. (Stephen Dugmore). (Todd Talsma), I had rather hoped that I might finesse out of someone just what these specific requirements might be. Daryll Whitehead would be another good choice. (Will Price), Dickerson standardized his reel seats with a 3/8's inside diameter bore, hence the .375 under the grip and reel seat. For anyone who hasn't done so, it is a really simple and useful exercise to combine tapers for rods of the same length and line weight in a spreadsheet such as excel and make a line chart of them. Post (Greg Reeves), TipsHome - What'sNew - Tips - Articles - Tutorials - Contraptions - Contributors - Search Site - ContactUs - TaperArchives Your statement that "if you want to make overweight rods with unnecessarily heavy tips and relatively floppy butts then straight tapers will deliver. (Frank Stetzer, Hexrod, Taper Archive, Rodmakers Archive), As far as being a Straight horizontal Stress Curve it makes NO difference what the rod is as long as the conditions produce a SHSC. 0.369 Actually, your second post said what I was going to say, look at the graphs. When fishing bamboo for trout I believe the "best" length is an 8 foot rod. It also is fine on smaller streams. They did not understand that a slow taper pole will bend near the point of grip under stress, whereas a fast taper will bend increasingly towards the tip as the rate of taper increases. 0.196 Remember that respect and civility is the goal of this board. (Reed Guice). The line weight standards are simply points in what is really a continuous spectrum. 50 0.213 The rod in question has a test curve of 4 ozs, by the way. (Larry Puckett), If you look at page 104 of the Dickerson book you will see his die set. is obviously your opinion, which you are entitled to. In the original Ritz conception the rod, or the taper, was the tip. I have built Russ' version, which I believe was posted yesterday, and I love it. So it seems that we are actually in complete agreement. 0.220 Still looking for a guide to hire for a striper trip to the Bay. Take a virtual tour of our terminal and view our campus map. But if you are just interested in a rod made on a Dickerson taper, then any number of qualified makers exist. Bamboo fly rod Dickerson 7012 taper 7ft 4wt 2/2. 0.138 he then concludes with a diabolical smile. I've cast the original and it is one strong casting rod and deserving of the Guide Special nomenclature. He was known for using only one or two strips from a culm, a time-consuming and expensive way to build rods. The trouble is, the market wants one that can do everything superbly with ease, and for a quarter of the price you need to charge to make it a worthwhile business proposition. The 8013 is an 8' 0", 2/2, 5wt., 4.35 oz. There are actually at least four different versions of the 7613; two by Dickerson a 1952 and a 1970 model, one by Golden Witch and one by Todd Talsma. by bluesjay 06/19/16 13:59, Post 0.214 And, it's true, if you were really screwed and couldn't get a Dickerson, and were absolutely forced to rough it with a Payne, I do think you could manage to get by without shedding too many tears. 40 .200 under grip Bogart Classic Wet Fly Rod 8.5 ft 5 wt Tip 5/64 For a DT #4 Here is a good classic wet fly taper that a real conisour of fly fishing would enjoy. BTW, Paul, different strokes for different folks. They are very nice 5 weights ( IMHO it is THE 8 5 wt). by wefishcane 05/08/09 02:55, Post They would be; The Straight line taper is the most basic and then the six major deviations of the SLT. Dickerson Rods Notes On Rods and Models Rod Features Rod Bags & Tubes Rod Markings and Script Buyer/Collector Beware Dickerson Articles About The Model Profiles Dickerson 761510 Dickerson 8014 Guide The Tom Clark Collection Anecdotes & Unseen Photos Dickerson Guide Series The Earliest Dickerson What Are The Chances? Part of the midwest cadre of noted builders, he built rods from the 1930's onward and was especially known for his fast two-piece rods. His total production was fewer than 1,000 rods. If you want the rod to have the same characteristics as before the change, the you must add some cane to the mid/butt of the rod to maintain the balance that was there before. Here are the numbers someone else posted earlier this year for the Dickerson 8014 GS. Information About Makers and Manufacturers, Appraisals & Identification of Bamboo Fly Rods. This in itself is a very interesting exercise. 45 0.1985 You may, or may not, as a rod designer, wish to achieve either, but probably not both! 15 .128 .274 No question my friend John Pickard is the way to go for a Dickerson reproduction. .let's see; Winston rods are straight tapers, so are Powell's B series (his most popular), and Garrison's. The hatch did not materialize and the fish did not rise, which gave me time to think of such things. Standard Tapers Two-piece with two tips, bag and aluminum tube Price : $1099 Custom Tapers Two-piece with two tips, bag and aluminum tube Price : $1199 - $1399 It is obviously also extremely useful to compare one rod with others at the same time. Don't leave us hangin' here with a sniper shot and leave ;-) (Mark Wendt), Truth be known, I prefer Payne to Dickerson. 30 .216 .099 761510: 7'6" 3/2 5 wt. (Steve Weiss), Good idea, Steven, but you would have get in line behind me and one of my Garrisons. He has some of the original taper ledgers from Dickerson's shop and can clone a rod as well as anyone. In the upper left corner, in blue, you'll see the real measurements we took, for all 3 flats at each measurement point. I won't know the difference if it isn't perfect but want to do things approximately correct. (David Atchison), Didn't Dickerson make his own ferrules and weren't they slightly oversized? (Tom Smithwick), See what Steve says, lots of people (Americans ? Acclaimed as one of the finest rod tapers ever conceived. Maybe it is the version of the taper they are making, there are several out there. As for roll casting, the only person I know who documented his thoughts was Wayne Cattanach.. I just posted on the Rod Builders forum a 861711D Dickerson taper taken from a rod built in 1938 and restored by RW Summers in 2005. Thanks for the feedback, very helpful. (David Zincavage), I wouldn't turn down a couple of each for crackers. I can always build another and I'm sure I will. Just give John a call and talk to him very nice guy with a lot of knowledge in Dickerson tapers. Yes you do have the seemingly limitless variation of moving the point or points and amount of material added or removed along the rod length. 0.256 "Proper amounts" and "correct points" are hardly scientifically precise terms, so I regret that I don't know what you might mean. Using too small a ferrule may be a factor. (John Channer). Chris likes it for Smallmouth on the Shenandoah. . (Rich Jezioro). As Will predicts, this is a very pleasant and easy rod to cast. I have made several and all have been well received. It does handle a 7 very well too. 4.6 ounces. 50 0.203 148510 In fact, I use the 7613 that I made a lot of the time, even while Hex fishing last week on the Manistee! 20 .140 .298 I get tired of hearing that kind of comment. And, after you "get used to it" you will fall in love with this rod taper. 45 .212 under reel seat, The numbers listed below are from Banjos' rod, 0 .084 .238 To my way of looking at this taper, its definitely an 8 wt. Garrison's tapers may have been all right in his day, for the equipment and applications he was designing for, i.e. If you caught my post to Robin, you will have read the requirements for describing a SC, as derived by Mr. Everett Garrison in his book. Chris' rod is also an 861711D. Rod makers history, value guide and general discussion, Link to Orvis Database by Greg Reynolds, Link to EC Powell's Mechanics of fly casting. (Mark Shamburg). I have fished some pretty big water with this rod and it has served me very well. Of course a SLT is never a SLT unless it's a one piece no Varnish & Guides rod, once we add things we change the effective taper. N'T turn down a couple of each for crackers and applications he was known for only. 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