With , reformers can decide doctrines for the reformed faith. Sometimes simple solutions are the best. For feudal pagans, reforming makes it possible to raise crown authority to any level. Equality allows the player to not only land females, but also to get even higher scores since female dynasts could have consorts, who as concubines provides prestige. AI rulers will only convert same-group provinces. Yea i know all that, and i never said i liked it. It gets pretty boring tbh. Blood sacrifices is super fun, esp. AI rulers will only convert same-group provinces Im happy to discuss my rankings or analysis with you guys. Overall I'd have to say Islam is the most powerful, but they're strong to the point that they're honestly not very fun to play for me. Astrology also enables Hermetic society which puts it up there with the notable doctrines for me. There's a mod that fixes this. Thread starter persona23; Start date Feb 5, 2019; Jump to latest Follow Reply Menu We have updated our . 2019, Foreign missionaries become more effective, venerate a given ancestor, in a process similar to sainthood, https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/index.php?title=Pagans&oldid=43605, Play Crusader Kings II. No female temple holders. I wish it was more interactive (e.g. Other pagan faiths have different modifiers. Cosmopolitan: I used it once, its fun, allows us to snatch some alliances with infidel neighbours, or non-aggro pacts with infidel vassals. Both my character and Christianity are based. Ilmen in 769 already holds Novgorod as its capital, is a decently strong start, and has the advantage of being able to flip to Russian culture once the faith is reformed, allowing the acquisition of the "Russkaya Pravda" achievement. The principal ability of defensive pagans (Romuva, Slavic, Suomenusko & African) is a tremendous boost in combat when fighting on home ground. Posted January 4, 2019. Hi, before Holy Fury release I posted my tier list for pagan doctrines, https://www.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/comments/9sfvtr/my_holy_fury_reformation_doctrine_tier_list/. Btw, is there any reason NOT to take unyelding? Zunist mechanics are a hybrid of defensive/offensive pagans and organized religions. Its holy sites are scattered around the map but are mostly controlled by right religion, even in 1066 starting date. Also I would totally put Survivors of Ukko higher. Autonomous leadership is only good if you need neither GHWs nor excommunications. Only if I could mark "Helpful" multiple times Is making your concubine who was a "raid-captured daughter of enemy duke" your vassal queen, and then murdering her an exploit? And you can make a chain of your demesne inside the silk trade route. Characters get a Rite of Passage when reaching adulthood. that's why those two are different Branches of Christianity, there's big enough difference on some of the theological matters. "Offensive" pagans get a bonus to their levy size (+30% levy size for Germanic, for example). Thats all for now! Sons of Ragnarok is combination of two bad doctrines, if we dont pick it, we will still retain ability to have viking trait and coastal county conquest cb, however, we will lose river sailing and prepared invasion ability which we dont need later in game ( and AI can close rivers for us by having enough fort level in river counties). Proselytizing allows for faster conversion and you can also try to convert AI leaders with your court chaplain/diviner (or whatever the position is called). Those who stick with the old ways are considered heretics by the reformed faith, and may be targeted by holy wars. The last playable Germanic ruler available is Arnfast of Vsterbotten, who dies in 1309. No Revolt Risk for different religion in county. Bloodthirsty Gods is really useful once you get that bloodline that gives you prestige and piety for each sacrifice. Reformer picks two doctrines. I usually take unyielding but in the future I think I'll go with Proselytizing. It is not normally playable (even with Ruler Designer), but can be played using mods or by exploiting loopholes. Pont Valentr Press J to jump to the feed. The faith is widespread in early starting dates, and some of the realms, such as Croatia, are already feudal rather than tribal. This is just a bonus I found by accident. They start as feudal, are unable to raid, have lesser chance to convert county religion, do not suffer from increased short reign penalties and may use ultimogeniture succession law instead of gavelkind. Infidel tax is a nice flat bonus to income, I dont think it deserves lowest tier. Moral Authority edit Main article: Moral authority Flat bonus to levy, garrison size and moral. Penalties Right now before I will be able to even convert rest of my provinces, they already do it.*. Edit: I have recommended a combination that gives u an ultra stable realm but if you want to expand and get the SPQR achievement, then pick the Unyielding doctrine and Temporal leadership instead. I like Buddhism because the combination of concubinage and heir-nomination means you can end up with an unbroken line of Strong Genius rulers if you play the genetics game well, but unfortunately they're lousy at expansion. This discussion is purely about game mechanics. Proselyting - ??? Tribal vassals who follow in reformation will no longer have opinion penalties for higher levels of tribal organization, no longer faction to lower tribal organization, and will usually vote in favor of increasing tribal organization. If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion, levy & garrison bonus from Unyielding nature or offensive bonus of Unrelenting doctrine in the first doctrine slot, it is lost. Standard stuff for defensive pagans. The Slavic faith is almost gone in the 1066 starting date, and the faith disappears from the world entirely by 1200. Levy size bonus from unreformed Aztec faith will be lost. Two of the religion's holy sites are located within de-jure Lithuania (with another site close by), making it one of the easier pagan religion to reform. It's aimed at more of the casual/intermediate player. using concubines). B. Doctrine 1: Polygamy: To make best use of Imperial Succession, having loads of wives is good as you can pick the best heir one of them pops out. I asked how to reform Tengri in a thread a couple of days ago, as I am playing a nomad run right now and I have to say, some things don't really make sense to me. Can't agree with stability doctrine, tech and artifacts lower short reign penalty so it is not worth to take it, and as I said from my experience it is easy to overcome. Dogmatic Nature + Unrelenting Doctrine is a pretty powerful combination as it gives a flat 10% attack bonus to all units as well as makes your religion MA always high meaning easier polythesising, not to mention the removal of pagan attrition from your reformed religion, allowing you to continue ripping pagan lands to shreds without melting. Peaceful nature is powerful if you have a huge realm . Community Patch with Improved Genetics 2.0 and Other Mods, Pagan Ancestor and Sea King Bloodline Changes, https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Bloodline#Ancestor_Veneration_Bloodlines. I admit I have not played Hellenic yet but it sounds awesome to me. The faith is in a strong position in the 769 start as north Africa is mainly ruled by tiny Muslim realms which can easily be conquered after consolidating your position in the south. Example: Your sister matri marries some guy from Ashina dynasty, they have a daughter for example, all you have to do is to matri marry her to your male heir. Holy Fury Pagan Reformation Tier List & Discussion. No penalty for female ruler. Helps a lot when vs crusades or aztecs trying to meme on you. (There is one exception. You are using an out of date browser. The Germanic reformer becomes the Fylkir, a ducal-level secular leader similar to an Islamic Caliph. Have fun dealing with retaining those. Meritocracy does have a major downside in that you can only designate your children, making it difficult to get your genius strong nephew on the throne or skip a generation. Reforming a pagan faith establishes a formal religious hierarchy and scripture - adapting elements of the Abrahamic faiths in order to more effectively oppose them. The sun is reflected beautifully on his bald head. Information, Frequently Asked actually that "pagan" religion in game is just the generic pagan religion that all pagans had before the "old gods" expansion. The unique traits of Autonomous are not that great, and GHWs are a must against large realms like the Ere. This gives me some new options to consider. You get a 30+ opinion bonus with the dynasty you venerated. Depending on the spread of the faith before reformation, heresy may or may not become a major issue. Is AV and Temporal actually working in conjunction for you or you just marrying into the saints' lines? Raiding culture allows the use of armies to raid while fabricating claims, and still get piety for remaining at peace. Disallow avuncular marriage and cousin marriage. Women can take up to 3 consorts. When you choose to play as a pagan ruler in CK2, you accept that there might be some problems (succession, levies, conversions) along the way that come with the advantages. Valve Corporation. More posts you may like r/CrusaderKings Join 3 days ago CK2 6.4K 103 r/CrusaderKings 5 days ago Enatic law is enforced, open succession law is unlocked. I picked Daring the first time, which allows prepared invasions, which is useless for the Roman Emperor. I will explain some of my choices based on how it worked out in my games. If you've ever wondered about in CK2, how do you change religion, now you know! Ruler does not receive opinion penalties for raised vassal levies. You hardly get Short year penalty with Imperial succession. Germanic faith is the faith of Scandinavian & Saxon people, worshiping deities like Odin/Wotan. For example, if you want to paint the map, pick Temporal and use GHW. )Best religion for gold income as liege : sunni Due to the additional tax from holdings in counties without Muslim religion. Engage in courtly intrigue, dynastic struggles, and holy warfare in medival Europe, North Africa, the Middle East, India, the steppes and Tibet. I have an Ironman 867 Guge game on the verge of reforming the religion. I used autonomous most often which gives some flat bonuses. Pagans have great difficulty holding large realms together. You want to play Sunni, because you can either get free learning or piety for even faster conquests. Best one in the loser tier. And raised levies opinion penalty only really counts if you are at war all the time. +10% Attack for all units. Fun and flavourful doctrines or flat bonuses (infidel tax and monasticism) . Duke-tier religious head common for all realms. With Monks and Mystics, Zunists characters may join the Hermetic Society. In particular, if Paderborn is held by a Germanic ruler and a Christian ruler occupies its temple of Irminsul (which normally occurs in the Charlemagne DLC's scripted invasion of Saxony by Karl of West Francia), all Catholic and Germanic rulers will receive a pop-up that the Catholics have burned the holy site of Irminsul, causing the Germanic faith to lose 10% moral authority for 10 years. Access to Hermetic society (but Hermetics still suffer -10 temple opinion). For the reference https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Pagans#Reformation, Nature: Two tiers here. Enatic clans is still good because vassal duchies wont merge every generation but they're infinitely worse than agnatic clans. Also you can give away the title, the best way would probably be as a viceroyalty. Similar story with Ancestor Veneration, but with more hassle of sucking up to the old dudes, the one disadvantage of Ancestor Veneration is that we must pick either Hierocratic or Autocephalous leadership (I think). That deserves recognition. In later starts, expanding north becomes increasingly difficult and by 1066, many rulers of the area have converted to Islam. Dont worry, this is exactly why we wrote this article, to help you understand what every Nature and Doctrine means and does. Crusader Kings 2 ; Best Pagan mods for CK2 Best Pagan mods for CK2. Possibility for a woman to take consorts is disallowed even if other traits should unlock it. When I ran a Muslim realm with a capital in Marrekech, and put 1 castle, 1 city, and 5 mosques there, I felt like I was the most powerful guy in the world. It combines mechanics from Dharmic religions and defensive paganism and offers quite a unique gaming experience. The only issue is there is a bug (Snow Crystal pretty much confirmed it's a bug) such that the religious head can never be venerated. The below table contains all 53 religions from Crusader Kings II, along with all religion IDs, for use in console commands such as religion. Women can take up to 3 consorts. Nomads have their unique nomadic succession which does not split the realm like gavelkind. It basically removes any fear of a succession crisis ever again, and Enatic gets the slight edge by basically giving you a free subjugation/crusade option on pretty much any leader in the game due to the rarity of female rulers in general. Prisoners of different religions can be sacrificed for Piety. However, other rulers will have a choice. It just looks so good: +80% Defense and +80% morale for all units if fighting at county of this religion. Temporal rests power with you, and gives you bonuses, and you can . The reason I don't like to pick it is that the bonuses apply to my vassals and makes them much stronger. Aztec Pyramid construction. The version without a religious head and Great Holy War becomes a heresy and is called the "Old" version of the religion. Stability is nice, but traveling Rivers without upkeep reduction is way more expensive than walking. You are using an out of date browser. There are better options for mix-maxing/efficient play. Followers 0. AI looters prefer coastal counties. Civilized already removes raised levies penalties to vassal opinion, and Hellenic can raid already. Monasticism is definitely top tier, as it allows you to make any succession law work the way you want, not to mention the flat learning boost. So I'm not a very big fan of Autonomous. Reforming the religion will cause a schism in the pagan faith. Charlemagne starts I tried so far seem to be financially starved, since it takes forever to get the basic naval tech and start raiding proper. Each temple looted in a raid gives +1% to moral authority. To debate theology, go elsewhere. Heir Designation is allowed (if at least one of Rajas of India or Jade Dragon is enabled). These three are weird. If dawnbreakers would have divine marriage paired with something else than polygamy it would be tier 1. If that bloodline gets passed down it's a great way to boost up prestige in the early reign of your descendants. Marry 4 women with good traits, then pick the best kid that pops out. Disagree. Pagans may fight back in the name of the old gods, and even seek to eliminate the monotheists from Europe. Unyielding is a must for small Pagan surrounded by powerful Abrahamic realms. I would say go with the form of paganism you like best. The best Doctrines by far are the two "Clans" option with the slight edge to Enatic. Bn rulers are playable with either Jade Dragon, The Old Gods, or Holy Fury. For example, the average/casual player is probably not going be aggressively bloodline stacking. Well. All units gain 80% to defense when fighting enemies in a province of the combatant's religion. They also gain access to Great Holy Wars if the Catholics have unlocked Crusades or the Muslims have unlocked Jihads. AI rulers will only convert same-group provinces. Ancestor Worship decision available. Stability removes short reign penalty, which was not a problem for me ever. Ancestor worship, animism and totemistic shamanism dominate, but there are also various pantheons of gods. The resulting empty holding slots further strengthens the horde. Partially redundant with Sea-Bound doctrine. Reformed religions lose access to subjugation wars, one of the fastest ways for pagans to expand. With A Crown Of Thorns, You Became My King Forever. Access to Hermetic society. Reforming the Aztec faith is possible but extremely difficult. Sacrificing prisoners unlocks special traits, actions, and a bloodline that grants Prestige for sacrifices as well. Sacrificing prisoners unlocks special traits, actions, and a bloodline that grants Prestige for sacrifices as well. Once your account is created, you'll be logged-in to this account. There are 6 Natures you can choose from, all with their advantages and disadvantages: Peaceful Bonuses +3 Demesne limit. I agree with most of what you said but I would put the Civilised doctrine as tier 1. Raiding unavailable if culture doesn't allow raiding.Hunting focus is unavailable.Holy wars and great holy wars are unavailable, but county conquest CB is available.Dueling comes with a Piety cost.Cannot create warrior lodge if it does not already exist.AI rulers will not convert provinces. Despite similarities between autonomous reformed paganism and Dharmic religions (followers of both has religious branch trait), the former still needs to deal with heresy (old pagan religion), while the latter has no heresies. Pont Valentr Press J to jump to the feed. Bn (Bon) is an indigenous religion of the Tibetan plateau, added in patch 2.8. The ability to raid makes some pagans uniquely wealthy in the early game. you proselyte by sword, not by word. A religion's nature determines its attitude toward warfare and religious conversion. If someone used it with success please advocate this nature in comments. Proselytizing: I will be honest, I never picked it. There are provinces with Bn faith in Tibet throughout the game but last playable rulers vanish in 1251, leaving Buddhists ruling Tibet. Jainism without doubt. In my game as a Zunist multi-emperor, I reformed with Warmongering, so conversion is very slow (maybe 20 provinces are converted, whereas I controlled half of the map), but that doesn't bother me : revolts are rare, and my vassals are converting them bit by bit. Youre all but guaranteed the successor you want, and unlike Open succession you dont have to worry about your AI heir doing stupid things when you land them. Lose piety when at war against faithful.Penalty to Spymaster steal technology. I may found bridge from new DLC's teaser. Also, your heir will very often be past childbearing age by the time they take the throne which, combined with the fertility debuff for unlanded characters is recipe for trouble and at best costs you the genius traits in many generations. As I try to have everyone with duchy and above titles be of my dynasty I have one save where I have 1000+ opinion just from veneration. I would suggest against prepared invasions/warmongering as it leads to rather unstable vassals, and generally does not benefit you personally as the leige as you will far exceed the maximum realm size requirement. Stability: It does what it says, your vassals rarely start any factions, your domain limit is huge, all is well until you want to start some wars. The Zunists are unique in that they are somewhat of a hybrid of the Offensive and Defensive; generic Paganism grants no bonuses. Agnatic, agnatic-cognatic, cognatic laws are restricted. A generic Pagan faith is used in the history files to represent everyone from pre-Christian Irish kings to pre-Islamic Arabs. The reformed Pagan religions are usually pretty nice. Feudal unreformed pagans typically use gavelkind succession. Will it have a religious leader, like the Pope? But it's because I favor Unyielding nature, and those two don't work well together. Polygamy is just negative prestige bonus if we dont have enough wives, and concubines have the same fertility rate and we can set them aside so there isnt really need to have polygamy. AI rulers are less likely to start wars, plots and factions. Incompatible with Eternal Riders and Invaders doctrines. Stuff that sounds good at first sometimes turns out to be not so great. Ive heard it is currently bugged. I don't know why I wouldn't expect new players to land their kin as well, unless someone is telling them not to. Acquiring the faith to begin with requires you to convert religions or use Ruler Designer, and its holy sites are split up between the Italia, Britannia, Spain, Francia, and Maghreb. While its holy sites are in locations which are easily taken, most of them lack a temple holding which means holy sites only give half of the usual Moral Authority, forcing Tengri rulers to either build temples or take control of all holy sites. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Its full potential is available when we are huge feudal empire and rely more on our vassal levies. The lack of a formal religious tradition means that pagans have a harder time spreading their faith outside pagan lands. Aztec religion only appears in-game if Sunset Invasion DLC is in use. Agnatic, agnatic-cognatic, cognatic laws are restricted. AI rulers are more aggressive.AI rulers only convert same-group provinces and only when zealous No male in the council. Concubines not allowed. Hinduism is solid with the early Holy Order, morale buff, patron deities and raiding but they lack any inheritance/realm management perks. Raiding unavailable if culture doesn't allow raiding. Flat bonus to levy, garrison size and moral. Independent lieges of this religion can construct, Religion is resistant to proselytizing + Stability, Fleet can navigate through major rivers, but maintenance cost remains full + Stability, Religion is resistant to proselytizing. But if you want to expand, Unyielding is not that useful . First two cancel themselves if they are picked together. The Faith of Zun is a sun-worshiping pagan religion introduced in the Charlemagne expansion. "Converting" for a day so you can join a society seems pretty gamey to me - i.e. Allows building the Sacrificial Altar feature of Great Temple, Great Stone Circle, Aztec Pyramid and Stonehenge, as well as the Grand Amphitheater. The Tibetan plateau, added in Patch 2.8 first time, which allows prepared invasions, was. In use Hermetic society which puts it up there with the slight edge enatic... 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