Two hours is not normal and its decreasing not just your quality of life but your health. I think a long commute driving wears on you much much more than,say, public transit where you can work on other things. I used to commute from Jersey City to Western NJ (about an hour on insane roads) and once I moved to CT my commute went down to about 5 minutes. I take an express bus, so with traffic, it can be 2 hours one way. Personally, I changed jobs recently due to my commute. Orange County comes up in a search for LA in idealist.org, so I didnt even realize it wasnt the same as LA. Groundwork cafe at the north Hollywood intersection of the redline and orange line has glorious gluten free baked goods(Im celiac, so I live by my map of places that I can eat). A common saying here is to live where you work and thats exactly what I did. Mine is pretty average, then. But its much more relaxing than driving from Toronto to Barrie. That just seems crazy! Yeah, no, I would consider 2 hours each way to be completely unsustainable. Yes, staying on ones own side of the river is key. That was years ago. should we give extra sick days to employees who cant work from home? It turned out the new commute was longer but with less city traffic. RightIm in the DC area and the max I can handle is 60 minutes for a normal commute. We live in Shenzhen. Ive had 5 minute commutes in West TX, 15 minute commutes in northern CO, 20-30 minute commutes in Albuquerque, NM, around an hour commute from rural central NM (to a 2 hour commute if I was attending class in Albuquerque that day), and 30 minute commutes in NE FL. Have you considered buying a motorcycle, moped or bicycle? I used to live in LB and HB have worked in Santa Monica all the way south to Corona Del Mar. I used to live in a shabby little cinder block house in the desert that a friend of mine dubbed the Serial Killer Shack, but it was cheap AF, 5-6 minutes from a job I loved, and I had no visible neighbors. Doh! (Houston area btw). In Seattle, not so much. I was just about to point out this every same thing. Some of those areas are now considered commutable, but theyre not considered to be part of the Bay Area proper. Taking that 1 hour class after work might help alleviate rush hour and let you sleep a bit more. I hope your boyfriend becomes more supportive, and that it wont be much longer before you get a job with a commute that allows you to have a life. Hope you find something that keeps you off the road! Im a recovering Staten Islander. It was the extra push I needed to turn down a position that probably would have made me miserable. The Bay Area is quickly approaching LA levels traffic wise- unless you are in an area with BART access. Interestingly enough, the only sketchy/uncomfortable experience Ive EVER had on LA Metro was on the Expo line late at night on the weekend. Although I was in school for the first few years in LA, I also consider this a commute. At my workplace, it goes from a 10-15 minute walk to up to 2 hour or more drive. My commute one way is 1-2 hours depending on traffic conditions and weather from the heart of downtown to the Woodlands. Doing that 2x or more a week was so frustrating. A ton of people commute at least 1 hour each day and they have to DRIVE. Old job was against traffic, current one iskind of across it. I wouldt be home until 8:30-9. Also agree that driving would make it much less bearable. As someone who grew in Rural Washington, I completely understand! my first job ever was 2 hrs each way and it bled my soul dry haha. Its not uncommon in my suburban town for it to take 20 minutes to go less than five miles. That said, in OC and some parts of LA county, it is entirely possible to work minutes away from your residence, or find alternate routes, or work non-peak traffic hours. On a good day, our commute (we ride together/share a car) is an hour. And what would be 3am traffic here in SD on the freeways. I live in the DC metro area so long commutes are just the reality of my existence. Not that Im saying that there hasnt historically been white flight but it happens in pockets instead of concentric circles. It was horrid, really horrid. Like others have already said you have to do whats best for you and what you can tolerate. You know what your time is worth to you. Native Los Angelino here, Im SUPER LUCKY that I only have a 40 minute (12 mile) commute. Now I am lucky to work 9 miles and 15 minutes from home and I love it. Zero. If you were able to be close enough to work and be car free how much money could you afford to spend on housing to make that happen? However, a lot of that was a voluntary tradeoff of having a pleasanter commute (living farther up the line meant I was guaranteed a seat on the train) vs. a shorter commute (when I might have to wait for a few trains to go by because theyre so squished). I dont live in LA, but I visit frequently and have close friends who do live there. These are my hard limits: Its normal if you are going into West LA or OC (and that you are not going against traffic). I still cant do pick up on a regular basis but my commute is about 30 minutes now and Im a much happier person. 1 Hour is perfectly fine for me however it can differ with others, 2 hours does seem a tad much especially when you have to consider traffic. A few of my senior bankers have 90-minute one-way commutes, and I just don't understand why people go through that. I am willing to sacrifice in terms of living space and location in order to have a short commute. It can easily fudge up to 45+ minutes if Mr. Town and I carpool and we decide to stop for breakfast. Good luck! Eventually, I moved to the SGV. Ive lived in Orange County for 35 years. There are a lot of ways to answer the long commute question, its more about finding the right answer for your specific household than the one true Right Answer. Can you take public transit part of the way (I know thats a long shot in LA)? I know people who do it but they all hate it. Hope you dont mind me interjecting, but I can recommend something if you like smart comedy! And it stinks when you get to the end and you have the last 5-mile problem where it took you an hour to go 40 miles and 30 minutes to go 5. The traffic-related info and anecdotes in this thread make me wonder why any sane human would ever want to live there. I think the longest commute anyone I know has had was my cousins husband who used to travel ~60 miles to and from work every day and spend over 3 hours each way. Public transportation is only a viable option if you work downtown. Right now Im at about 45-50 minutes depending on metro waits. Would commuting to DC from Fredericksburg be doable if Would having the CompTIA trifecta and two years desktop Would this large litter box with a grate be suitable for Would having the better debt to income and an extra 500 a What do your partners family do that they think is normal What was the dumbest rule your school thought up? Unsustainable is a great word, Countess. Yeah, when we lived in LA our home was very strategically placed with regard to work and other places we went. Weve been to LA on vacation several times and the traffic was a nightmare even when it wasnt rush hour. Anyway! For context, Im in the DC area and my commute door to door is roughly an hour on mass transit. The best to hope for in the car is audiobooks and podcasts. But I was able to deal because I worked 6-7 hours a day, got a ride home (because there was literally no combination of buses that I could get home on at that hour), and took books, mending, and other busywork with me so I would be occupied on the bus ride. Im in Minneapolis-St. Paul, and the commute can stretch into 90 minutes if youre going from one city to the other. It was so, so good for my physical and mental well being. It always took at least 45-60 minutes. I currently live between OC and LA and love where I am its cheap, quiet, pretty and all my friends are here. More often than not I'd be home in 25 minutes and most days I spent less than an hour in the car. It was 31 miles door to door. Yeah, unfortunately as an EA with two very needy execs theres no way I could do 7 am to 3:30 pm.. anything thats not those times will still have me sitting in 2 hour traffic every day. There are a lot of people selling stuff, panhandling, or just riding the trains to get off the streets. She creates really unique / weird worlds. (Forgot to add, distance is just over 20 miles.). Having more/less freeway time, more/less surface street time, time of day youre coming and going, whether youre traveling with or against the bulk of traffic in the areas youre in makes a HUGE difference. The rest of the year would probably be fine weather-wise! Distant suburbs are lower income than most of the city. It would have to be a pretty awesome job to be worth spending 4 hours daily commuting. I will say, with my patience level, I do okay stuck in traffic (red lights, pedestrians, etc.) The few times I drove in (a 45 minute drive without traffic), it was 1-1.5 hours each way. Id also like to +1 on the ability to search google maps for drive time estimates for your next position. Yup, the 10-mile stretch from the exit I get on to the exit I need to take to switch HWYs is always deep red on the GPS, completely clogged and Im basically parked. My sister drives even further, close to 60 miles, and her commute is about an hour. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, about 28 miles outside of the citymy husband commutes via BART (the subway) everyday and it takes about 45 minutes if its running on time which it never isif he were drive, it would easily be 90 minutes one way with traffic if there were no major accidents/road closures. I go to my office two days a week and leave my French bulldog home alone for 12 hours. This is one of those things that depends on you and your situation. It was ridiculous; I stuck it out until I was able to transfer closer a couple years ago. I think its now an hour fifteen. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Sorry! Not that anyone cares but Im in staff housing again and my current commute is about four minutes walk. These kind of verbal agreements, or even written agreement via email etc can go wrong sometimes. This is not a normal commute anywhere outside California or a handful of world megacities. Driving is at least an hour and twenty minutes and it is killing me. It costs you hours of pay that have to be diverted to higher car maintenance expenses. https://urbanize.la/post/metro-considers-temporary-shutdown-and-rebuild-blue-line. The only difference Ive seen is the urbanization of the formerly rural parts of those counties (e.g., Gilroy, Antioch/Oakley, Livermore, Healdsburg, Petaluma, Vacaville) and an expanding commute pattern. Only to commiserate. After this long of doing that drive, I am very resentful of losing those 2-2.5 hours of my life five or more days a week. I was going to suggest you try driving to your parents once a week but that's not really possible at the moment. I think just having parents around to babysit at short notice, and actually being able to do things in the evenings occasionally with my partner would be amazing. The time of day changes whether a neighborhood or block is busy or echoingly empty, whether the subway is packed with commuters, sports fans, tourists, or concert goers, or if its spooky with just you and some person that could be coming back from a casting call for vampires. I am his assistant and I understand bringing up flex hours for my role will 99% not work. Taking either Sunset or 101 to 405 because of that interchange. Yeah once I had stopped an hour commute, I shudder thinking about ever having to do that again. If I moved to the mountains, barring a resort town I found find the same Im sure. Also it is RIGHT at the juncture of two major freeways, and minutes from a bus/train depot. My commute was anywhere from 45 minutes to 1 hr 30 mins. Here in the DC area, a 45 60 minute commute is generally the norm but its not unheard of for people to face a 1.5+ hour commute. Yuuuuuup. most people I know in the Us walk or bike to work. Obviously its possible. Im in Southern CA but out by Palm Springs. Also lived in LB, commuted to Newport/CDM. I live in Silicon Valley. Which is also within 30 miles of Bushwick. do I really need to send a thank-you note after being rejected for a job? While my to the office commute was short, I did travel alot and the drive to/from LAX was horrible. I think youd be shocked. Eh. My home is only 31 miles away from my office, and my commute takes me 1.5 hours door to door on a good day (no railroad or subway issues). *shudder*, Working remote is much better! Are there any yoga classes after work? Im Canadian. I was a finalist for a job in the LA area a few years ago, and the advice I got from both friends as well as the internal recruiter was not to consider living anymore than 5mi from the office, unless I wanted to have a ridiculous commute. I dont think Natalie is talking about theoretical calculation of commutes on Google Maps or something. From my house to my work is only 10 miles, but it can easily take an hour by car in rush hour. I also was going to school at night in Sylmar, so my days wouldve been spent driving and Id have zero life. My cousin does two hours each way I dont see how you could maintain a proper amount of sleep and/or a social life with that. Riding the train during commuting hours seems much different than late at night or on the weekend. In the early afternoon, traffic isnt bad and I can make it from Irvine to Pasadena in about an hour. Do not waste your youth in traffic! DC-area here. Lately, Ive started bringing my laptop and working, so perhaps Ill start leaving earlier and spending less time at the office. How much you like the job, how easy your life is when you finally get home, and what you can do in the car to make the time not feel mind-numbing and wasteful. If you want to live somewhere affordable and work in the city, youre going to have to commute 1 to 2 hours away. Prosecutors say Fratta organized the murder-for . Agreed! Fullerton, Anaheim, Irvine and Santa Ana have Amtrak and metrolink as well as freeways. Exactly. He mostly works an 11am-7pm schedule so his commute is only 45 min. I occasionally used to do a 60 mile return commute - that was way too much time out of the house - looking at 13 hours from leaving home to getting back. But I-15 in January . Its like another 10 minutes to get to my desk once Im here.. Honestly . Im a fan, since parking is now free, but if it were longer, Id be out. I rode the BL for a few years in the early aughts for school/work it was a little bad then but its getting worse. UGH, have lived in the valley, 0/10, would not repeat. My husbands commute is about the same in terms of time, but he drives 32 miles. A bit longer than Id like, but far preferable than the hour-plus Id spend trying to get downtown. When my family drove to Colorado from San Antonio, we popped those in and it helped the drive a lot. 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